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Phil Drysdale – The Deconstruction Journey

Who Is Phil?

Phil Drysdale is a public speaker, podcaster, researcher, and coach specialising in the area of Deconstruction. For over a decade he’s helped people navigate the painful journey beyond their faith tradition. He conducts research into the Deconstruction community through The Deconstruction Network, runs a regular podcast about Deconstruction, provides free resources to help people on their journeys and offers a safe space for people to process their deconstruction.

My Thoughts

Phil is a wealth of knowledge in the space of deconstruction; he understands it on a personal and an academic level. You will know doubt learn so much in this episode whether you are new to deconstruction or are very familiar with it already. As someone who works in this space, I appreciate the research that Phil has done in this space so that we can understand it more fully.

Episode Summary

  • Phil explains what the term ‘deconstruction’ encompasses and takes us through the 3 markers of someone deconstructing.
  • We address the misconception that deconstruction equals deconversion.
  • Phil reinforces that deconstruction is about the internal process of shifting rather than the answer or a new belief system.
  • We explore the common themes that come up for those who are going through this process.
  • Phil discusses the stability and safety that comes from fundamental, black & white thinking providing a level of certainty.
  • We explore the role of autonomy and conditions of worth and how lots of small shifts can create substantial change.
  • Deconstruction isn’t always a conscious choice; we discuss this surprising notion.
  • Phil talks about the likelihood that those who deconstruct were those that were fervent in their faith.
  • We explore the role of shame and regret particularly for those who are a part of the LGBTQIA+ community.
  • I share about the difficulty that comes when you realise that you were a part of upholding a harmful system.
  • I ask Phil to share about what it is like to deconstruct and what helps to navigate the challenges.
  • Phil reinforces the need for self-compassion and kindness towards us during change.
  • Community is a core component of being human. We discuss the importance and role of community whilst deconstructing.
  • Finally, Phil answers the question “what would you say to someone fresh in their deconstruction?”